http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/recent.aspx Huddersfield and District FHS - Recent Posts en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Jitbit AspNetForum Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:12:34 GMT Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:12:34 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=390 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:12:34 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=392 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:15:06 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=391
I am a resident of San Francisco, Calif., USA. My great-great grandfather, Walter Gill, was born in Netherthong in 1827; he was christened in the Wesleyan chapel there in that year. His parents, William Gill and Sally Littlewood were married in Almondbury (All Hallows Church) in 1826.

I am trying to trace back the ancestry of William Gill and Sarah Littlewood.

In the 1841 census William Gill said he was born in Netherthong and was 35 y.o.; employment, mason; Sarah said she was born in Honley and was 35 y.o. Next door to this couple was Benjamin Gill, 30 y.o. born in Netherthong, also a mason. I am assuming he is the brother of William Gill. In the 1861 census Sarah is not listed (deceased?); William stated he was 60 y.o.

There is a christening record for Benjamin Gill at the Wesleyan chapel in Netherthong in 1810, which gives his parents as John and Sarah Gill. But I cannot find an appropriate christening record for William Gill within the years 1800-1806. Of course there are hundreds of William Gill christening records in the Mormon database (which I believe is very comprehensive for Yorkshire) for that period in West Yorkshire. So, I am trying to find who were William Gill's parents and when and where he was christened. Of course I seek to trace his ancestry back as far as possible.

His wife Sarah Littlewood seems to match up with a christening record in Almondbury in 1804, father Jonas Littlewood mother Hannah. (William and Sarah Gill had a son Jonas). But this is only a possibility. Also, William and Sarah Gill had a son, Walker, b.1832; unusual first name; I assume it is a maiden name of a recent ancestor of either William or Sarah. Given that assumption, there is a William Gill christened 1801 in Emley son of William and Edith Walker Gill, but it appears from later Emley records that he married someone else (Mary Caithorpe?).

A helpful volunteer in your society a number of years ago checked the marriage record for William Gill and Sarah Littlewood in Almondbury but found it did not list the parents of either spouse.

Is there anyone who can help identify the ancestry of this couple?

Sincerely,

Bradford L. Wilson]]> Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:05:27 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=390 How do HDFHS members deal with their data/documents/photographs etc? I don't fancy the skip option.]]> Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:02:53 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=389
The map reference for the Hey that Sandra found on the Saddleworth Historical Society website is incomplete. It should be SD 980 097.
However, the place name does not appear on modern maps; so you would be better off using http://www.old-maps.co.uk/indexmappage2.aspx
Enter 398000 and 409700 into the Coordinates boxes and click Go. Click the 1854 Yorkshire thumbnail map, then zoom in as required.

In the 1881 Census for the area, the placename Hey (on its own) also appeared in Almondbury, Linthwaite, Marsden and Upperthong.

The word comes from Old English for an enclosure; thus it is no surprise there are so many places called Hey (Hay), or include Hey in the name.
To establish which one of them is 'yours', you will need more information about your ancestors, I'm afraid.

John.]]> Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:53:36 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=389
I think Hey was or is in Saddleworth. There are two roads out of Huddersfield called New Hey Road, heading towards Saddleworth and there are several place names around Saddleworth which include the name Hey. If you look on the Saddleworth Historical Society website under the heading Saddleworth Place Names there is the name Hey with a National Grid Reference of 980 097. It's possibly the Hey you are looking for.

Sandra]]> Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:57:13 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=389 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:57:39 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=388 I don't know if this info will help you at all, there was a Matthew Sherry marrying in Sheffield Yorks in 1935 to a Lily A Green-Tucker they appear to have had just one daughter Ann born in 1937 in Sheffield,
Judith]]> Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:56:13 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=388 Thanks]]> Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:04:46 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=99
I think that the above Tabitha Axe married William Starkey of Fartown on 7th Nov 1734 at St. Peters in Huddersfield. Williams family were originally from Lancashire but I think that his grandmother Ann Bradley came from Darfield so there could be a Mexborough connection.

Stuart Starkey]]> Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:27:14 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=379 Mary Beth]]> Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:16:51 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=379
The nearest RC church to New Mill in the 1820s appears to have been St. Patrick, Huddersfield.
The Kirklees office of the West Yorkshire Archive Service has the baptisms on microfilm for 1828 to 1993.
See http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/downloads/Collections%20Guide%205.pdf for further details and contact information.
You might consider asking them to look for the baptism (for a fee) if only to eliminate the RC angle from your searches.

John.]]> Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:29:01 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=379 Regards
Sherlock]]> Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:13:32 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=150
If you are still trying to find who Ann Amelia married, try doing an 1891 Census search on Ancestry.
[Exact matches only] Tick
[First Name(s)] Ann Amelia
[Relationship to Head] Wife
[Birth Year] 1860 +/- 1 (from FreeBMD)
[Birthplace - County or island] Yorkshire
Clicking [Search] returns her married name.

Then similarly:
[First Name(s)] leave blank
[Last Name] her married name
[Relationship to Head] Head
[Birth Year] leave blank
[Spouse's Given Name(s)] Ann Amelia
Clicking [Search] returns the full name of her husband.

A marriage search on FreeBMD for that name, restricting [Date range] to Sep 1886 and [Districts] to Huddersfield, reveals why the entry is missing from the record you found for Ann Amelia.

John.]]> Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:16:37 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=386
Henry]]> Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:31:33 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=387 Thanks for additional from IGI source. I will try and compare with the earlier info.Quite a bit to go on now, seems like when I mentioned juggling with soot
and suddenly there is an unexpected fall to deal with. As for the quaintly named mother of one, I am not sure what to think.!
kind regards
george]]> Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:14:12 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=387
Just to throw some more into the mix, there are several Joseph Jessop's baptised at Kirkheaton betoween 1813 and 1819. Kirkheaton is just over the hill from Whitley so it's a possibility. I found them on the IGI on familysearch.

I'm hoping your Joseph is the one with the delightfully named mother Kerenhappuch!

Sandra]]> Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:27:38 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=386 http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidcjones/3869734823/ - taken this year so it looks like the gravestones are still there and accessible]]> Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:46:44 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=386 St Lukes Church closed down many years ago now but the building is still there as is the Grave Yard but would'nt like to say what state it is in,
Judith]]> Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:37:50 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=387 Thanks for such a swift response, certainly most unexpected. Will follow up the info given to see if I can make sense of it. Must just say that, before I can
knit with fog- i.e. piece a family line together, I am still only gathering snippets of data which is much like juggling with soot !
thanks once again
besr regards
george]]> Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:16:32 GMT