http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/recent.aspx Huddersfield and District FHS - Recent Posts en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Jitbit AspNetForum Sun, 20 May 2012 14:42:34 GMT Sun, 20 May 2012 14:42:34 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic669-asylum.aspx Sun, 20 May 2012 14:42:34 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic669-asylum.aspx Part of Daw Green in the censuses.]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 21:21:08 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic669-asylum.aspx Wed, 16 May 2012 16:37:21 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic668-pollards-of-kirkheaton.aspx Mon, 07 May 2012 16:24:23 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic667-lockwood-burials.aspx Tue, 01 May 2012 09:39:47 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic666-ivy-house-fixby.aspx Thanks again for your quick reply - much appreciated!]]> Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:13:16 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic629-edgerton-cemetery.aspx Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:16:41 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic666-ivy-house-fixby.aspx
I take a manufacturer to be someone who owned a mill or some sort of business premises for the manufacture of cloth. He could also have spun, woven and finished cloth then sold it rather than just finishing other peoples cloth.
Ivy House could have been home to several families, the census would tell you how many families were listed at that address.
My family also farmed 6 acres at Cowcliffe, they were tenant farmers so they rented, either from the Thornhill or Ramsden families. They were also cloth dressers until the mills put all the cloth dressers out of work.
The 1840's were very hard times, lots of poor harvests and high prices. I have two families which left Cowcliffe in this time, one to the USA and another to New Zealand. If James was left to run the farm alone he could always hire casual labour when he needed it, most farms did and still do.
Yes, lots of quarries at Cowcliffe and Fixby would mean lots of work for stonemasons, it might have paid better than farming.
Old-maps.co.uk has online maps you can look at or if you are in Huddersfield then the local history library has the OS maps. Ivy House farm still exists, you can view it on Google maps.]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:04:50 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic664-beech-towers-records.aspx I worked at Storthes hall when it was shutting down i took some patients to Beech towers
When i went to Dewsbury 1989 Beech towers was still up but quickly knocked down
Good luck in your search]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:39:22 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic629-edgerton-cemetery.aspx Family grave14R 188 unconsecrated dec 1944 ]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:33:41 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic666-ivy-house-fixby.aspx I have actually found William Tate (born 1824) in the 1851 census. He is married and living in Manchester.
I did the unthinkable and didn't re-visit all my original records!! I have now ordered lots of census books which I probably won't need. Still - they'll probably come in useful for plotting the extended family.]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:45:37 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic666-ivy-house-fixby.aspx I am researching the Tate family and whilst I have done quite well in 'date collecting' I am now more interested in the social conditions etc and how they lived. Our direct ancestor was a William Tate born 6/6/1824 in Deighton - one of eight children of James & Elizabeth (Gibson) who married on 16 Jan 1815 at St Peter's Huddersfield. According to parish records James & Elizabeth lived in various places until 1841 (Huddersfield, Deighton, Sheepridge and Fixby) and his main occupation until 1841 seems to have been 'cloth dresser' (except for 1824 when he is listed as 'manufacturer').
The 1841 census shows James and Elizabeth (Betty) living at 49 Ivy House, Fixby with four of his children (including William) and is now listed as 'cattle dealer'.
The 1851 census shows James and Elizabeth living at 68 Ivy House, Fixby together with their youngest son Alfred who is a stonemason. He is now listed as 'farmer of 6 acres'.
I cannot find our direct ancestor (William Tate born 1824) at all on the 1851 census but have ordered booklets of surrounding areas which may shed some light on this.
My queries are as follows:-
- I think I know what a 'cloth dresser' is but does anyone know what a 'manufacturer' would do?
- Would Ivy House have been the abode of one family - or more than one family? While living here he was a farmer and I am presuming that he rented this property rather than owning it.
- I am puzzled as to why all the family left this house. In the 1851 census James & Elizabeth are in their late 50's and it would have been difficult to manage a farm of 6 acres at their age. I would have thought that not only would the farm have been possible to support at least some of the family - that it would have actually been necessary for some to stay and help.
- Our direct ancestor (William Tate born 1824) went on to become a stonemason, settling in Manchester. I always wondered why he went down that occupation but on looking at the map it would appear that there were a few quarries in this area - so it makes sense. Does anyone know any good maps I can get hold of, or just look at?
I know that there are quite a few 'asks' in this list and don't expect answers to all my questions. It's just that no matter how many 'dates' you collect, you cannot beat local knowledge for some in-depth and reliable information.]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:05:19 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic629-edgerton-cemetery.aspx Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:37:24 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic663-george-sheard.aspx Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:57:32 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic665-lees-of-linthwaite--slaithwaite.aspx Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:16:29 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic664-beech-towers-records.aspx Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:20:27 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic645-holmfirth-charlesworths.aspx
below is my australian line










Charlesworth, David James
1804 - 1878



















Charlesworth, John Henry
1838 - 1905



















Charlesworth, Florence Jane
1882 - 1972



















McAuliffe, Susan Cecelia
1906 - 1967



















Walsh, Margaret-Mary
b.1940



















Daly, Dennis Brian
b.1963







the info on the other charlesworths are alsoo below



Florence L. Barclay

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Florence Louisa Barclay (2 December 1862 – 10 March 1921) was an English romance novelist and short story writer.

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She was born Florence Louisa Charlesworth in Limpsfield, Surrey, England, the daughter of the local Anglican rector. One of three girls, she was a sister to Maud Ballington Booth, the Salvation Army leader and co-founder of the Volunteers of America. When Florence was seven years old, the family moved to Limehouse in the London Borough of Tower Hamlets.

In 1881, Florence Charlesworth married the Rev. Charles W. Barclay and honeymooned in the Holy Land, where, in Shechem, they reportedly discovered Jacob's Well, the place where, according to the Gospel of St John, Jesus met the woman of Samaria (John 4-5). Florence Barclay and her husband settled in Hertford Heath, in Hertfordshire, where she fulfilled the duties of a rector's wife. She became the mother of eight children. In her early forties health problems left her bedridden for a time and she passed the hours by writing what became her first romance novel titled The Wheels of Time. Her next novel, The Rosary, a story of undying love, was published in 1909 and its success eventually resulted in its being translated into eight languages and made into five motion pictures, also in several languages. According to the New York Times, the novel was the No.1 bestselling novel of 1910 in the United States. The enduring popularity of the book was such that more than twenty-five years later, Sunday Circle magazine serialized the story and in 1926 the prominent French playwright Alexandre Bisson adapted the book as a three-act play for the Parisian stage.

Florence Barclay wrote eleven books in all, including a work of non-fiction. Her novel The Mistress of Shenstone (1910) was made into a silent film of the same title in 1921. Her short story Under the Mulberry Tree appeared in the special issue called "The Spring Romance Number" of the Ladies Home Journal of 11 May 1911.

Florence Barclay died in 1921 at the age of fifty-eight. The Life of Florence Barclay: a study in personality was published anonymously that year by G. P. Putnam's Sons "by one of Her Daughters."

[edit] Bibliography
The Wheels of Time (1908)
The Rosary (1909)
The Mistress of Shenstone (1910)
The Following of the Star (1911)
Through the Postern Gate (1911)
The Upas Tree (1912)
The Broken Halo (1913)
The Wall of Partition (1914)
The Golden Censer (1914)
My Heart's Right There (1914)
In Hoc Vince: The Story of the Red Cross Flag (1915) (non-fiction)
The White Ladies of Worcester (1917)
Returned Empty (1920)
Shorter Works (1923) collection of short stories and articles published posthumously
Guy Mervyn (1932) (revised by one of her daughters and published posthumously)

Cheers

Dennis]]> Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:05:21 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic645-holmfirth-charlesworths.aspx Thanks very much for your message. When you say you are "descended via David Charlesworth", what do you mean exactly? Are you a member of the "Australian" Charlesworths (since David had no children in the UK), and if so, which line? Unfortunately, I have no information on the Surrey Charlesworths.
Regards,
Peter]]> Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:18:24 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic645-holmfirth-charlesworths.aspx i am also trying to clarify my family charlesworth connection like you we are decended via David Charlesworth the line of the family i am trying to link is our charlesworths and the charlesworths of limpfield surrey.
My great grandmother Florence Mc Auliffe (nee charlesworth) always insisted her cousin were Florence Barclay (nee Charlesworth) and Maud Bellington Booth (nee Charlesworth ) the daughters of Samuel Charlesworth the vicar of limpsfield Surrey
Dennis Daly]]> Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:01:49 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic664-beech-towers-records.aspx edited by RAYZ on 12/04/2012]]> Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:51:03 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic663-george-sheard.aspx Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:19:18 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic634-midwood-family.aspx Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:05:17 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic634-midwood-family.aspx Some of these had issue which I am now researching. I'm afraid I have no record of the 'Green' Hirsts so far]]> Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:52:54 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic662-coltman-family.aspx no i did think at one point she killed her hubbys . i just wanted to find out if there was any children from her marriges or from the marrige of john and agustine]]> Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:40:10 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic634-midwood-family.aspx Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:51:13 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic662-coltman-family.aspx Dinah Procter daughter of John and Ann Proctor/Procter
Dinah Proctor married Charles Hingley - Dinah Hingley married John Calladine1884 -Dinah Calladine married Isaac Hufton 1892- Dinah Hufton married John Willie Coltman1909
. What sort of information were you wanting?]]> Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:43:23 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic662-coltman-family.aspx ]]> Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:43:18 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic651-sykeshawksworth.aspx Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:32:48 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic661-scammonden-full-1911-census-online.aspx cum Pole Moor... side...www.laundsinnmuseum.co.uk
Regards
Robert Broadbent]]> Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:42:56 GMT http://www.hdfhsforum.dnsalias.com/topic660-scammonden-full-1911-census-online.aspx cum Pole Moor... side...www.laundsinnmuseum.co.uk
Regards
Robert Broadbent]]> Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:42:16 GMT