20/05/2012 14:42:34
Topic:
Asylum?
jw9244
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Thank you so much for that.
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16/05/2012 21:21:08
Topic:
Asylum?
John
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Googling for Asylum, Dewsbury returns plenty of hits.
Part of Daw Green in the censuses.
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16/05/2012 16:37:21
Topic:
Asylum?
jw9244
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I have a death certificate which indicates that the deceased passed away in or at 'Asylum. The informant is also described as 'present at the death' with the word 'asylum' following on. Do I take it that she died in an asylum in Dewbury or (as has been suggested to me) that 'Asylum' was an area of Dewsbury. If so, please can anyone tell me where it was/is?
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07/05/2012 16:24:23
Topic:
Pollards of Kirkheaton
maz
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I am looking for the Pollards of Kirkheaton i believe there daughter Mary married William Duxbury on 21/11/1758 in Kirkheaton
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01/05/2012 09:39:47
Topic:
LOCKWOOD BURIALS
chouanne85
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Hello. I am trying to establish where some ancestors who lived in the Lockwood district in the 1865-1890's are buried. They lived in Crosland Moor. Both my husband grandparents 4 times removed died in 1887 and their son and I was wondering if there was a specific epidemic at that time. Would the church they were buried possibly be Emmanuel Church? Are they records of deaths for people who died of epidemic causes? Thanks in advance.
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27/04/2012 08:13:16
Topic:
Ivy House, Fixby
sandmartin
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Many thanks for your quick reply. On checking the Fixby census booklets for 1841 and 1851 I find that only one family (ours) lived at 49 Ivy House in the 1841 census and two families lived at Ivy House in the 1851 census - ours at No. 68 and another family at No. 69 (who was a stone dresser, not a farmer). The numbering suggests that it would have been possible for quite a few families to live here.
Thanks again for your quick reply - much appreciated!
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26/04/2012 20:16:41
Topic:
Edgerton cemetery
sandrastocks
Posts: 83
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If you email kirklees bereavement services with the grave numbers they will probably send you a copy of the cemetery plan and the detailed plan of section 14R to help you locate number 188
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26/04/2012 20:04:50
Topic:
Ivy House, Fixby
sstarr2008
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I had an Ann Starkey married to an Abraham Gibson, they lived at Cowcliffe and married in 1803. I wonder if Abraham was related to your Elizabeth?
I take a manufacturer to be someone who owned a mill or some sort of business premises for the manufacture of cloth. He could also have spun, woven and finished cloth then sold it rather than just finishing other peoples cloth.
Ivy House could have been home to several families, the census would tell you how many families were listed at that address.
My family also farmed 6 acres at Cowcliffe, they were tenant farmers so they rented, either from the Thornhill or Ramsden families. They were also cloth dressers until the mills put all the cloth dressers out of work.
The 1840's were very hard times, lots of poor harvests and high prices. I have two families which left Cowcliffe in this time, one to the USA and another to New Zealand. If James was left to run the farm alone he could always hire casual labour when he needed it, most farms did and still do.
Yes, lots of quarries at Cowcliffe and Fixby would mean lots of work for stonemasons, it might have paid better than farming.
Old-maps.co.uk has online maps you can look at or if you are in Huddersfield then the local history library has the OS maps. Ivy House farm still exists, you can view it on Google maps.
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26/04/2012 19:39:22
Topic:
Beech Towers Records.
kaz56
Posts: 3
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What about Wakefield family history i know Wakefield has a lot of old records
I worked at Storthes hall when it was shutting down i took some patients to Beech towers
When i went to Dewsbury 1989 Beech towers was still up but quickly knocked down
Good luck in your search
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26/04/2012 19:33:41
Topic:
Edgerton cemetery
kaz56
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Can anyone help. I would like a plan of Edgerton cemetery to locate a grave
Family grave14R 188 unconsecrated dec 1944 
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26/04/2012 13:45:37
Topic:
Ivy House, Fixby
sandmartin
Posts: 3
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Sorry - here is an amendment to my original posting.
I have actually found William Tate (born 1824) in the 1851 census. He is married and living in Manchester.
I did the unthinkable and didn't re-visit all my original records!! I have now ordered lots of census books which I probably won't need. Still - they'll probably come in useful for plotting the extended family.
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26/04/2012 10:05:19
Topic:
Ivy House, Fixby
sandmartin
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Please could anyone help with information about Ivy House, Fixby? A map in the 1841/51 census shows Ivy House to be on the edge of the township and is very near to Netheroyd Hill. I am not sure of the date of this map but it looks very old.
I am researching the Tate family and whilst I have done quite well in 'date collecting' I am now more interested in the social conditions etc and how they lived. Our direct ancestor was a William Tate born 6/6/1824 in Deighton - one of eight children of James & Elizabeth (Gibson) who married on 16 Jan 1815 at St Peter's Huddersfield. According to parish records James & Elizabeth lived in various places until 1841 (Huddersfield, Deighton, Sheepridge and Fixby) and his main occupation until 1841 seems to have been 'cloth dresser' (except for 1824 when he is listed as 'manufacturer').
The 1841 census shows James and Elizabeth (Betty) living at 49 Ivy House, Fixby with four of his children (including William) and is now listed as 'cattle dealer'.
The 1851 census shows James and Elizabeth living at 68 Ivy House, Fixby together with their youngest son Alfred who is a stonemason. He is now listed as 'farmer of 6 acres'.
I cannot find our direct ancestor (William Tate born 1824) at all on the 1851 census but have ordered booklets of surrounding areas which may shed some light on this.
My queries are as follows:-
- I think I know what a 'cloth dresser' is but does anyone know what a 'manufacturer' would do?
- Would Ivy House have been the abode of one family - or more than one family? While living here he was a farmer and I am presuming that he rented this property rather than owning it.
- I am puzzled as to why all the family left this house. In the 1851 census James & Elizabeth are in their late 50's and it would have been difficult to manage a farm of 6 acres at their age. I would have thought that not only would the farm have been possible to support at least some of the family - that it would have actually been necessary for some to stay and help.
- Our direct ancestor (William Tate born 1824) went on to become a stonemason, settling in Manchester. I always wondered why he went down that occupation but on looking at the map it would appear that there were a few quarries in this area - so it makes sense. Does anyone know any good maps I can get hold of, or just look at?
I know that there are quite a few 'asks' in this list and don't expect answers to all my questions. It's just that no matter how many 'dates' you collect, you cannot beat local knowledge for some in-depth and reliable information.
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25/04/2012 12:37:24
Topic:
Edgerton cemetery
noddy1002
Posts: 1
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How can I find the location of a couple of graves in Edgerton cemetery?
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24/04/2012 16:57:32
Topic:
GEORGE SHEARD
Gill Perez
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Hi Sarah I don't know anything about your George Sheard, but i have two on my family tree but more recent. George 1867-1929 he was coachman to Sir Ben Turner one time MP for Batley. His son George1897-1951 was my grandfather also from Birstall. I wonder if we have a connection?
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21/04/2012 18:16:29
Topic:
Lees of Linthwaite & Slaithwaite
annf
Posts: 1
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I am looking for the parents of Joseph Lees b. abt 1793 in Linthwaite - m. Sarah Hall in 1814.Have looked at various options but not sure which is the right ones. Any help would be much appreciated. AF
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16/04/2012 16:20:27
Topic:
Beech Towers Records.
RAYZ
Posts: 2
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No records for Beech Towers survive, so I am told. At least there are none at Kirklees WYJS, the Library and now the Dewsbury Mid Yorkshire NHS Records Manager tells me that they destroy Patients Death records after 8 Years. Have e-mailed the Bereavement Services in Dewsbury, to see if they can tell me anything about the Q Section. So if nothing comes from that it is down to the Death Certificate and hoping it confirms something. I have, with more success chased a record for my Grandmother, she died in Wakefield Union Workhouse, on the 24th October, 1928, there is an Index giving details of her admission and death date, name, address and next of kin. Would have thought that the record itself will have been destroyed but I can ask for nothing and I can get the Death Certificate with confidence.
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14/04/2012 10:05:21
Topic:
Holmfirth Charlesworths
dalyfamily4
Posts: 2
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Peter
below is my australian line
Charlesworth, David James
1804 - 1878
Charlesworth, John Henry
1838 - 1905
Charlesworth, Florence Jane
1882 - 1972
McAuliffe, Susan Cecelia
1906 - 1967
Walsh, Margaret-Mary
b.1940
Daly, Dennis Brian
b.1963
the info on the other charlesworths are alsoo below
Florence L. Barclay
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Florence Louisa Barclay (2 December 1862 – 10 March 1921) was an English romance novelist and short story writer.
[edit] Biography
She was born Florence Louisa Charlesworth in Limpsfield, Surrey, England, the daughter of the local Anglican rector. One of three girls, she was a sister to Maud Ballington Booth, the Salvation Army leader and co-founder of the Volunteers of America. When Florence was seven years old, the family moved to Limehouse in the London Borough of Tower Hamlets.
In 1881, Florence Charlesworth married the Rev. Charles W. Barclay and honeymooned in the Holy Land, where, in Shechem, they reportedly discovered Jacob's Well, the place where, according to the Gospel of St John, Jesus met the woman of Samaria (John 4-5). Florence Barclay and her husband settled in Hertford Heath, in Hertfordshire, where she fulfilled the duties of a rector's wife. She became the mother of eight children. In her early forties health problems left her bedridden for a time and she passed the hours by writing what became her first romance novel titled The Wheels of Time. Her next novel, The Rosary, a story of undying love, was published in 1909 and its success eventually resulted in its being translated into eight languages and made into five motion pictures, also in several languages. According to the New York Times, the novel was the No.1 bestselling novel of 1910 in the United States. The enduring popularity of the book was such that more than twenty-five years later, Sunday Circle magazine serialized the story and in 1926 the prominent French playwright Alexandre Bisson adapted the book as a three-act play for the Parisian stage.
Florence Barclay wrote eleven books in all, including a work of non-fiction. Her novel The Mistress of Shenstone (1910) was made into a silent film of the same title in 1921. Her short story Under the Mulberry Tree appeared in the special issue called "The Spring Romance Number" of the Ladies Home Journal of 11 May 1911.
Florence Barclay died in 1921 at the age of fifty-eight. The Life of Florence Barclay: a study in personality was published anonymously that year by G. P. Putnam's Sons "by one of Her Daughters."
[edit] Bibliography
The Wheels of Time (1908)
The Rosary (1909)
The Mistress of Shenstone (1910)
The Following of the Star (1911)
Through the Postern Gate (1911)
The Upas Tree (1912)
The Broken Halo (1913)
The Wall of Partition (1914)
The Golden Censer (1914)
My Heart's Right There (1914)
In Hoc Vince: The Story of the Red Cross Flag (1915) (non-fiction)
The White Ladies of Worcester (1917)
Returned Empty (1920)
Shorter Works (1923) collection of short stories and articles published posthumously
Guy Mervyn (1932) (revised by one of her daughters and published posthumously)
Cheers
Dennis
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13/04/2012 22:18:24
Topic:
Holmfirth Charlesworths
Peter Charlesworth
Posts: 5
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Dear Dennis,
Thanks very much for your message. When you say you are "descended via David Charlesworth", what do you mean exactly? Are you a member of the "Australian" Charlesworths (since David had no children in the UK), and if so, which line? Unfortunately, I have no information on the Surrey Charlesworths.
Regards,
Peter
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13/04/2012 13:01:49
Topic:
Holmfirth Charlesworths
dalyfamily4
Posts: 2
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Hi peter
i am also trying to clarify my family charlesworth connection like you we are decended via David Charlesworth the line of the family i am trying to link is our charlesworths and the charlesworths of limpfield surrey.
My great grandmother Florence Mc Auliffe (nee charlesworth) always insisted her cousin were Florence Barclay (nee Charlesworth) and Maud Bellington Booth (nee Charlesworth ) the daughters of Samuel Charlesworth the vicar of limpsfield Surrey
Dennis Daly
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12/04/2012 18:51:03
Topic:
Beech Towers Records.
RAYZ
Posts: 2
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I have been in touch with Kirklees WYJS and the Library regarding records for Beech Towers. They have been very helpful in supplying details of where my possible relative is buried, complete with Burial Plot plan. My possible relative Robert Brown, died in October, 1960 and was buried in Dewsbury Cemetery on the 24th. in a single private grave, Plot Number Q 151, it actually looks like a sloping P but I am assured it is a q, his death record gives his age as 82 which matches my relative. The Robert I am looking for repeatedly walked the length and breadth of the country, working when he had to and I suppose would be called a vagrant. I realise that this may have been asked before but does anyone know if records are available anywhere for Beech Towers in the 60's or am I just going to have to get the Death Certificate of this Robert and hope it tells me something which will confirm him as my relative? It surprised me that he was buried in a private single grave as I know my parents wouldn't have been able to afford to pay for his Funeral at that time, unless another relative came forward?
edited by RAYZ on 12/04/2012
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